The Bat Segundo Show #33

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[NOTE: This is the third of a three-part podcast which tackles Alternative Press Expo. This particular podcast was recorded in front of a live audience on April 9, 2005. Enjoy!]

Author: Alex Robinson

Condition of Mr. Segundo: Missing, arrested for littering.

Subjects Discussed: Why Caprice carried over in all three of Alex’s books, the appeal of cons and self-delusion, how Tricked was planned, on being influenced by and cultural references, John Lennon, why many of Alex’s women characters are taken in by dupes, messy bedrooms, Dorothy Parker, on writing small-talk in comics, the use of text, balloons, Dave Sim, work ethic, comic book influences, ethical subtext, the mystery of the one dark moment concerning Marlise in Box Office Poison revealed, loyalty, lucid crazy people, the Eisner-Pekar questionnaire, on attending comic book conventions, Alex Robinson the critic on Alex Robinson the artist, Planet of the Apes, on computers and printing, and minicomics.

The Bat Segundo Show #32

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[NOTE: This is the second of a three-part podcast which tackles Alternative Press Expo. Our Young, Roving Correspondent walked the floor and talked with people for the first two parts. The third part will feature the panel interview with Alex Robinson.]

Authors: Anna Warren Boersig, Mel Smith and Clark Castillo, Shuji Karasawa, Neil Fitzpatrick, Jacob Steingroot, Julia Wertz, Carmen Ogden, Fred Van Lente, Matt Voss, M.K. Reed, Gary Zumie, Brandon Huigers, Sean Seamus McWhinny, Shaenon K. Garrity, Joe Canose and AK Smith, Scott Beale, Bill Roundy, Alex Dias and Daniel Clowes.

Condition of Mr. Segundo: Missing, arrested for littering.

Subjects Discussed: A different version of Oz, on what an executive producer does on a comic, the latest comic adaptation of Gumby, Bob Burden, an “Ally McBeal sense” to Gumby, Robert Downey, Jr., Hard Gay Comics, naming a comic book universe after a creator vs. coming up with a brand new name like Narnia, animals, Homeric epithets, “Fart Party” as a benign concept, an obsession with submarines, faux Esperanto, Action Philosophers, putting out a Xmas book in April, violence via croquet, Nabokov, footnotes in comics, more animals, the Stop Dating philosophy and an ironic revelation from the guy who came up with it, the scandalous world of catering, mad scientists, robot zombies, squids, bartending guides, purple fingernails, a fascinating gentleman who is organizing the world’s most exteme convention (including nonstop entertainment and dancing!), Art School Confidential, and screenplays vs. comics.

SFPD — The Use of Force

The San Francisco Chronicle has a number of articles on excessive force and the SFPD. Reading some of the stories, I was very lucky. The police routinely beat, pepper spray, choke, club and hit citizens when it isn’t called for. And what’s worse, the Police Department does nothing about it.

According to the Chronicle, the SFPD has 100 violence-happy members among its force of 2,200. These officers are then promoted to supervisory positions and train rookie officers, thus instilling a police culture where violence is rewarded and possibly encouraged. And of course taxpayers pay a considerable burden defending all the civil suits. The City has paid out more than $5 million in judgments and legal settlements between 1996 and 2005.

Heaven knows what the costs are for the victims, both physically and mentally, short-term and long-term.

The Deal

As of this morning, the infraction is not in the court’s computer system, but it appears I have a Notice to Appear at the criminal court for littering. The only way to contest the charge is, amazingly enough, by trial (since this is not a Vehicle Code charge), which will involve submitting a bail amount and obtaining an attorney. But I haven’t been able to confirm this with anyone at the Criminal Court. I had wanted to try a Trial by Written Declaration, but it seems that this is reserved only for Vehicle Code citations. The specific offense is San Francisco Municipal Police Code 33:

It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to put, place, sweep, throw, brush or in any other manner deposit any rubbish, paper, cards, newspapers, wrapping or wrapping paper, container of any kind, string, cord, rope or other binding or fastening material, sweepings, dirt or debris or discarded material of any kind or character upon any sidewalk, street, alley, gutterway or other public place in the City and County of San Francisco. It shall also be unlawful for any person or persons to throw, sweep or brush any rubbish, paper sweepings or dirt from any residence, flat, apartment house, store or office building into any sidewalk, street or alley. (Amended by Ord. 1994, Series of 1939, App. 3/8/43)

I’m going to be very careful in how I describe this process. And some of these posts may be removed in the not so distant future. But I will keep you folks posted.

[UPDATE: I spoke with a very nice clerk at the Traffic Division, who apparently had to hunt for the bail amount through a few musty papers. (“Littering? We don’t get too many of those,” she told me.) Thankfully, I will not need an attorney, assuming that the charge is strictly littering. I will need to post a bail amount for $350. The two sides will then present their respective accounts over the course of a few hours. And the judge will then reduce or dismiss the amount. So this comes as some relief. The only gray area is the second checkbox on my Notice to Appear for some unspecified charge, and whether or not I have been cited for what they threw me into the holding cell for. Hopefully, a more formal notice will appear in the mail spelling out exactly what I am charged with and why I need to appear in court. I do plan to obtain a copy of the police report to determine what the police officers’ side of the story is.]

Roundup

Litterbug Blues

I hear the squad car comin’
It’s rollin’ round the bend
And I ain’t smoked for a while I know
Since, I don’t know when
I’m stuck in Park Station
And time keeps draggin’ on
But those gruff cops keep on comin’
On down to Haight and Stanyan

When I was just a undergrad
My friends said, “Have a smoke”
I picked the stupid habit up
And sometimes I drank Coke
But I threw a butt in Frisco
Just to watch it die
When I hear that squad car comin’
I hang my head and cry

I bet there’s drugs and murder
Or a woman being raped
But the fuzz is thinking small time, son
The litter takes the cake
But I knew I had it comin’
I know I can’t be free
Cause the cops don’t see me sweeping
And that’s what tortures me

Well, if they freed me from this prison
If I were Heather Fong
I’d reprimand the cops
Who stayed away from real crime
I’d discipline and fire
All the cops who abused
And there wouldn’t be a siren
That was a tad misused

Trying to Make Sense of Things

The Office of Citizen Complaints: The first step in filing a complaint.

Park Station: Where they took me.

Of the two police officers, it was Officer Vyu who was the belligerent one who cuffed me, leaving Lamela to play (for the most part) laconic good cop. I managed to get his badge number: 2103, based on the ATM receipt I kept crumpled in my left hand.

Aside from Fajitagate, the SFPD has a history of shootings and violation of police procedure. And let’s not forget this infamous video from last year.

As to what San Francisco police procedure is exactly, I think they didn’t read me my Miranda rights because I was not being detained for questioning. But failing to cite a specific charge, with some nebulous reference to “littering” and then “drunk and disorderly.” When they cuffed me, Officer Vyu suggested it was for “littering.” But if that was indeed the charge, then why didn’t they just write me a ticket on the spot?

I’ve looked at the Penal Code section they cited me on the report and I see nothing in my conduct which suggested that I was “in a condition that he or she is unable to exercise care for his or her own safety or the safety of others,” nor was I interfering with or obstructing the street or the sidewalk. Again, there was nobody around and I certainly wasn’t sprawled out in the middle of the sidewalk. Perhaps they thought I was drunk because I have a form of astigmatism in my eyes that causes me to cock my head to one side and that causes my eyes to jiggle. But if this was the case, then why didn’t they shine a light in my eyes or conduct a BAC test? By what measure did they declare me drunk? Did they smell the second screwdriver that I had partially imbibed? Vodka is pretty smelly liquor. They certainly didn’t have me touch my finger to my nose or walk in a straight line. They simply cuffed me.

The Day After

Thanks for all the emails. Yes, I’m okay. Yes, what I relayed did happen. No jokes, no bullshit. And thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. They mean a lot. I’m genuinely touched.

I find, amazingly, that I’m at a loss for words. I find myself enjoying the outside world with more passion than I’ve ever had. (Thankfully, it’s a sunny day.) But I’m now constantly looking around to see if another cop car is coming. I’ve been wondering if what I did was really wrong. I’ve been wondering if I’m really guilty. I have no idea if I’m going to be fined. I called in sick with a bullshit excuse and I don’t know if anyone there is reading my site or if I’m going to be fired because of this. I’m ashamed to tell them what happened. And I also discovered this morning that the cops had taken all the money I had in my wallet. Thankfully, it wasn’t much. (Hilariously, they left the emergency and probably expired condom I’ve had in there for months. Who knows what else is missing?)

I’ve replayed the incident many times in my head and one of the lines I explicitly remember was one of the cops saying, “You think you can do anything you want?” Ironically, this is the exact same thing bullies and malicious people have told me throughout my life. And I’ve always responded yes.

The audio file I was working on last night still remains paused at the point I left it last night. I’m hoping I can get it finished before the end of the day.

For now, I’m being exceptionally gentle to myself and staring into space a lot, thinking of all the other people the fuzz has thrown into the hoosegow for equal or lesser charges, contemplating the absurd level of force and paperwork from last night, when they could have just told me to go home or given me a warning.

If there’s an upside to all this, as I told a friend of mine this morning, some dormant anarchist impulses have risen to the surface.

I haven’t decided whether to contact a lawyer yet, but I do plan on filing a complaint with the police department. For now, I just want to rest so I can go to work tomorrow and concentrate on my job. I’ll probably know how to proceed by Monday.

The SFPD is Evil

It is now close to 3:30 AM and I am now home, after being thrown into a drunk tank with a pot peddler named Jacob. I feel utterly debased and completely humiliated. There are horrible red rings around my wrists that still sting. This was, of course, the horrid cut of handcuffs, bound as tight as possible by two cocky members of the SFPD who needed to fill a quota and who, for whatever reason, singled me out. A white guy in the Haight.

Now I had never been arrested before any of this. And I now know, without a shadow of a doubt, that I cannot run for political office if I wanted to. Because I am now, even with a misdemeanor on my record, an abject criminal. So sayeth the smug sons of bitches (they being Officer Lamela and Officer Vyu, according to this rinky-dink report they handed me) who decided to arrest me tonight for the most abject of charges. The crumpled report I have in my pocket indicates that I violated 647(f)P.C. RWS. Which I presume is California Penal Code 647(f), which states:

Who is found in any public place under the influence of intoxicating liquor, any drug, controlled substance, toluene, or any combination of any intoxicating liquor, drug, controlled substance, or toluene, in a condition that he or she is unable to exercise care for his or her own safety or the safety of others, or by reason of his or her being under the influence of intoxicating liquor, any drug, controlled substance, toluene, or any combination of any intoxicating liquor, drug, or toluene, interferes with or obstructs or prevents the free use of any street, sidewalk, or other public way.

But here’s the thing. While I was, at the time of arrest, working on a second screwdriver, I wasn’t drunk. Nor did these two police officers even bother to test me with a breathalyzer.

I wish I could tell you that I handled it well. But I didn’t.

I wish I could tell you that I rose to the occasion. I wish I could tell you that I didn’t rip up toilet paper in the cell they through me in into little pieces, begging for the time to go by, while Jacob snored into next week. But I didn’t.

Here’s what happened:

Tonight, while mixing audio for the next podcast, I made an unfortunate decision. I decided to smoke again. Never mind that I had quit. Never mind that I promised myself that I wouldn’t smoke again. I went outside for a smoke break. As it turned out, this was perhaps the worst mistake I could have made.

As I was smoking, a light from a police car in the street shined on me. As I put my cigarette out and was prepared to dispose of it, one of the officers cried, “Hey!”

I answered, “Is there a problem, officer?”

Because the light from the black-and-white was shining into my face, I couldn’t see the officer particularly well. And one of the officers, apparently the guy who had shouted “Hey,” came up to me and cited me for littering. I told the officer that I was in the process of disposing of the cigarette butt, which I truthfully was. But this wasn’t quick enough for him. He put his cuffs on me.

Perhaps it wasn’t a wise idea to respond, “What the fuck is the problem?” But understand that when a police officer puts his cuffs painfullly around your wrists without citing you, tact isn’t exactly the thing that comes to mind. I was bemused and enraged more than anything else. And while the f-bomb isn’t exactly an inroads to diplomacy, I happen to know that even a misdemeanor is accorded the Miranda rights. But I didn’t get any of this, nor was I able to ascertain a specific code section that I had violated. And I certainly didn’t get an answer from them for what I was charged for.

The two cops pushed me to a car and manacled my ass, as if I was the local heroin dealer or some PCP addict. I asked them repeatedly what I was charged for. They claimed littering. But the report, as I have specified above, states otherwise.

It all happened extraordinarily fast. They took all the contents of my pockets, including my wallet and my keys. These two cops pushed me into the back of the car and, even while they were driving me to the local hold tank, they still wouldn’t answer what specific charges I was cited with — despite repeated requests on my part.

“Can you give me with a specific code charge that I’m cited with?” I asked, as the manacles bit into my flesh.

The two cops remained silent. They mentioned “littering” and “drunk and disorderly.” But even if I was drunk (which I was not), they completely failed to tell me exactly how I was disrupting the public. After all, I was alone. And while smoking the stupid cigarette, they didn’t tell me how I was disrupting other people. (There was nobody nearby.)

I was then handcuffed to a bench in the small confines in Golden Gate Park. Another police officer asked me my phone number. I asked him why he needed to know it. He told me that if I was a “good person,” I would give it to him without question. Understand that I was not being difficult. I just wanted to know why they needed such private information. I was, of course, aware of the Fourth Amendment. But apparently, I was a threat.

In any event, I gave my digits to the dude. But this essentially meant nothing. And I was still denied a phone call, much less a reason for why I had been arrested.

So I was cuffed to a waiting area. And I met Jacob, a pot peddler who told me that he was in for D&D. But he was honest enough to tell me that there was, in fact, a justifiable reason why the cops nabbed him.

Before I knew it, I was thrown into a horrid cell, in which I quickly grew familiar with the environs. A stainless steel toilet, some very thick walls with cracks in them, a sink that doubled as a source of water. And Jacob, whom I placated and promised that I would recognize him if he was dealing dope in front of Amoeba Records, inter alia.

Well, Jacob fell fast asleep. He was clearly drunker than me. And I was left in this cell reciting Milton and Shakespeare to keep me sane, wondering if anyone would let me out. I had talked with Jacob and he intimated to me that a cop would come after about four hours of this nonsense. And then he zoned out And I was left in the holding tank contemplating every prison film I had ever seen.

I began to panic. I looked through the mesh and saw nobody. It was clear to me that nobody was on duty.

Of course, being quite cognizant of where I was, I began to rip toilet paper. I recited all the poems that I knew. The prospect of falling asleep on the stolid concrete simply wasn’t and option.

Three and a half hours later, seeing nobody and being unable to sleep with Jacob’s snoring, I came up with the crazed idea of rapping on the mesh. To my great surprise, a deputy came over. I told him that I hoped to go home, where I could actually sleep. Amazingly, he understood. He told me that he was not the guy who arrested me, which suggested to me that the two officers who had thrown me into the drunk tank had been perhaps a tad mistaken and that this was business as usual. I was able to sign for my shit and collect all my possessions. And I played it absolutely safe to ensure that I would get the hell out of there. The deputy pointed me to Haight Street, but I knew where it was.

And I walked home, sobbing like a girl and feeling utterly horrible and wanting some kind of retribution for my perspicacious fate.

And now here I am home, fueled by some litigious retribution and fired up by utter enmity of the officers who didn’t bother to figure things out. I don’t know exactly what to do, but rest assured that vengeance will, in some small sense, be mine.

I still remain quite stunned by what happened, but if anyone has any ideas, please shoot them my way.

if i had a livejournal 4.12.06

it rained today the same way it did yesterday and the same way it did before that motherfucking rain what the hell is going on? what did i do to deserve this? can the sun come out and remind us we’re human? it rained 26 days in march, 26 days as if this town was some surrogate seattle and i’ve been trying to remain positive but it’s been 26 days and i hate umbrellas and the spokes that hit you in the forehead they are like those wretched cadillac boats that hover between two lanes when you drive so i’m left getting drenched hoping that the rain won’t come down but still the rain comes and i’ve had just about enough and i suppose that this, conjoined with the lack of sleep, is why i’ve been so bitchy surprised i’m not sick

all rain and no sun makes ed a mad boy
all rain and no sun makes ed a mad boy

better to be a mad boy (at 31, natch!) than a madman but i think one of those cluetrain people have cornered the market on indignant online identities i don’t know, that was so long ago in web 1.0

so anyway i am now ably fixated on this rain and three weather sources that i have checked tell me that it will rain through the whole of the week and that we won’t see the sun unless we’re lucky on monday i must have done something bad to deserve this this is a republican scheme, yes, with the global warming i must have done something bad but is this the correct way to punish me for my existential faults (many)? it would be nice not to have to go to bed alone and hear the rain patter mercilessly against the windows perhaps this is why i have insomnia why i’m a bit sad right now

what happens when you’re cooped up inside is that you don’t sleep and you force yourself to do something productive like making podcasts and burning yourself out and composing bullshit blog entries like this i wonder if there are any foolproof studies which conclude that rain is a telltale indicator of one’s mental health and well-being i’m more neurotic than usual

it continues to rain outside and often muni buses do not come thus quelling my natural enthusiasm for public transportation a grand shame i like being excited about subways

people are normally quite jocose in this town, but lately they have been miserable even the bartender the other night who i tipped generously told me, “here’s your fucking change” either he knows me or i did something bad to him or he’s miserable like the rest of us

i think i don’t like the rain because san francisco is such a beautiful town why i’ve lived here so long but when the rain comes it sticks to the streets and traps you between buildings it turns everything into horrible grime and nobody wants to go outside and pick up the litter because they will come back soaking you can walk outside for five minutes and your socks will feel damp and even my extremely buzzed down hair will feel like damp silky strands as if i’m not balding at all!

we californians complain about the rain because we’re spoiled by sunshine all the time snow is exotic when it is very cold like in other places in the states we are even more miserable but this rain is recurrent forcing us to remain recumbent nice for couples but pretty lousy after 26 (26!) rainy days single

i was doing perfectly alright being alone quite happy and occupied until this rain came and killed my instincts to go out and observe people and meet friends and otherwise inhabit this great city of ours

and yet there is still a roof over my head there’s plenty of media to consume and think about there’s plenty of work to be done but the rain causes me to rethink much of this and i don’t like snapping like a turtle at people and perhaps it’s not the rain at all but a general state of exhaustion that i’ve been in denial about for the past four weeks

i am a fool thank you rain for limning this

Father Inspires Best?

Interesting Clifford Odets profile:

When, in 1937, L.J. learned that Odets had separated from Luise Rainer, the two-time Academy Award-winning actress, with whom he had a tempestuous three-year marriage, he sounded off in all his brutishness: “I’m ashamed of you. You are the dummist chunk of humanity I have ever come in contact with. . . . Your all ass backwards and sitting on your brains.” Odets internalized this constant excoriation, berating himself in his journal as a “pig,” a “pissant,” an “idiot,” a “loafer,” and “twice an ass.” He wrote, “It is the father you have incorporated, his characteristics and hated elements—that is the father to be afraid of!” L.J.’s toxic voice also found its way into some of Odets’s most seductive stage villains—the gangsters Eddie Fuseli (“Golden Boy”), Kewpie (“Paradise Lost”), and Moe Axelrod (“Awake and Sing!”), the womanizer Mr. Prince (“Rocket to the Moon”), and the Hollywood mogul Marcus Hoff (“The Big Knife”).

I Guess I’ll Take a Number

Personally, I thought Xeni Sucks was a jejune and solipsistic effort to gain attention. When somebody forwarded me the link, I clicked on it, yawned and then left. Little did I realize that it was “a blog written by a man who virulently hates a female tech journalist, and writes in detail *several* times a day including his violent fantasies about her, and her family (who he names).” It would help if Violent Blue offered specific examples to support her thesis here. Because skimming through the Xeni Sucks site, I can find nothing on it that reflects her findings. Yes, there is a good deal of juvenile (if obsessive) banter which attempts to mock Xeni’s posts at Boing Boing. Yes, the proprietor of Xeni Sucks should probably get a life.

For anyone who believes in women’s rights, I can see why anyone paying attention to the news would be angry. I certainly am. But while I agree that the gender chasm between tech journalists definitely needs to be rectified in some way, does this mean that a journalist’s work shouldn’t be criticized? Even in a childish way?

Looking at the Xeni Sucks site, I see nothing which corroborates Violet Blue’s findings. I see nothing in the cited New York Times article that suggests that badmouthing women is a good thing. And if Violet’s post were broached by a copy editor, it might be construed as unfounded libel.

And there’s still the flimsy reasoning. To offer a corollary, by Violet’s standards, the many posts here calling into question Caitlin Flanagan’s smarts might suggest that Return of the Reluctant is “a blog written by a man who virulently hates a female journalist, and writes in detail *several* times a week.” Does this make me a sexist? Or a women hater? (If so, I marvel at the irony of my Caitlin Flanagan-themed posts, all of them inveighing against sexism, being construed as sexist.) I live in San Francisco. Should I be next in line to get my ass kicked?

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Interview with Chris Staros

During our APE coverage, Our Young, Roving Correspondent talked with Top Shelf head Chris Staros and got the scoop on Alan Moore’s controversial new work, Lost Girls. What follows is the relevant portion (which can also be heard at the tail end of The Bat Segundo Show #31):

STAROS: For other new stuff, our really big book this summer is going to be Alan Moore’s Lost Girls, which has been in development for twenty years and is finally seeing print. It’s actually heading to the printer next Friday. We’ve just about wrapped it up and it’s going to be an absolutely beautiful book. Cloth volumes, hard covers, dust jackets, slip case. And it’s actually going to be larger than the absolute editions of Watchmen and The League of Extraordinary Gentleman. So it’s going to be in that class of product. It’s going to be beautiful.

OYRC: Now did Alan Moore go directly to you? Or did you have to fight to publish this book? Or what’s the situation?

STAROS: Well, you know, when Alan Moore left DC Comics the first time in the 80s and started to do his own work with Mad Love, his own publishing company, he did three things: From Hell, Lost Girls and Big Numbers. Those were the three projects he started. Now From Hell was eventually completed and published. And we were the publisher of From Hell now. And then Lost Girls and Big Numbers had fallen into limbo. Big Numbers was a project he didn’t want to pick up on. But about five years ago, I flew to England to meet Alan at his house in Northampton with the sole purpose of trying to convince Alan and Melinda [Gebbie] to pick up Lost Girls and finish it. Well, lo and behold, nobody knew, but they had actually been tinkering with it the whole time. They had never let it go. They’d just been working on it slowly, slowly, slowly. And they showed me how much they’d done of it and how absolutely beautiful it was. And so I said, “Would you allow Top Shelf to publish it? We would be honored to do a book this important.” And they said yes.

So ironically, the first time I ever got an Alan Moore autograph, which is something I always wanted as a fanboy, was on the contract to publish Lost Girls. One of his most important works ever. So Lost Girls is Alan Moore’s attempt — not attempt, his success to make pornography literary, human, thoughtful, and exquisite. And so it is something that’s never been done before. And Melinda Gebbie, his now fiancée, painted the book and it’s three 112-page volumes, all coming out at once. So 336 pages of fully painted, beautiful illustrations and some of Alan’s best writings in it. It’s quite extraordinary.

OYRC: Did you have any editorial input on this in terms of shaping it? Or was it pretty much hands off to let Alan do his thing?

STAROS: I am the editor on the book. But in that sense, it’s really more of a shepherding thing. Like getting the designers in, getting the book produced, helping the page docs, working with Brett [Warnock], my partner, as the art director of the thing to make sure it looks right. And, you know, hunting down typos and those kind of things. I don’t think I’d have the audacity to coach Alan on how to write the thing. I mean, he’s – he writes flawlessly to begin with. So he didn’t need any editorial input on that regard.

OYRC: It sounds like a pretty expensive volume to put out with all the color artwork. It seems to me almost like a big risk for you.

STAROS: It’s a very expensive book to produce. The most expensive book we’ve put out by a factor of about six or seven. So it’s huge. But if you’re going to do a high-risk project, there’s no better name to have attached to it than Alan Moore. And Lost Girls is a pretty safe bet in that even though it’s going to be highly sexualized, and there’s going to be some people and some stores that may have to stay away from it, the book has had such a reputation and has been building for so long. People have been anticipating it for so long that I think when it hits, everyone’s going to want it. Plus, when they see the package and how absolutely beautiful it is, it’s going to be an impulse buy that’s just going to. Probably the first printing’s going to sell out so quickly where we’re not going to know what happened to it.

OYRC: Now in terms of stocking this in stores, is this a problem possibly for you? That some people are going to say no because they will consider this to be pornography?

STAROS: It definitely could be a problem in some states. There’s potential that some people might have some problems with the interiors. But we’ve already had legal reads on it, you know, from the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund attorney, Burton Joseph, who you know works for Playboy and so forth. And it is a legal book. But that doesn’t mean in this day and age when there’s a lot of conservatism going on and people challenging things, that we couldn’t not necessarily run into challenges. But we’re working really hard to make sure that the book gets a lot of mainstream press before it even comes out. So that publications like Entertainment Weekly and Publisher’s Weekly and Time and USA Today and Playboy and others get a shot at talking about it, reviewing it and discussing it in a free speech capacity, so that if we run into any problems with the book, it’s already got a nation behind it. It’s already got the industry behind it. It’s already got a big name like Alan Moore behind it. It’s not something that’s going to be easily attacked. So we’re trying to take an offensive-defensive posture, if you know what I mean.

OYRC: I gotcha. But as to the content itself, you say that it changes and transcends, sort of like the nature of pornography. Do you think – I mean, obviously, it’s kind of a strange question to ask of the publisher, because you have a self-interest in the answer. But maybe you can elaborate on this. How does it push boundaries?

STAROS: Well, it’s the story of Wendy from Peter Pan and Alice from Alice in Wonderland and Dorothy from The Wizard of Oz. Not so much named, but you kind of get an idea that it’s based on them, right? And about them all meeting in a hotel at the outset of World War I and really getting to know each other in a sexual sense and in an exploratory sense, and reflecting back on their lives and their stories. And a sense that their stories are really covers for the sexual revelations and the things that happened to them in their childhoods. So it involves a lot of reflections on them. So it can be considered, you know, controversial on a couple fronts there. But it’s truly a work of art. I mean, it’s unbelievable. I’ve read the thing several times myself already and I’m just amazed at how much of a commentary he does. Because it’s a book about, you know, the Western world’s hang-ups with sexuality and discussing sexuality. And it also makes the statement that war is the ultimate pornography. Not sex. And it really makes a strong statement about that. And also reflects upon itself as our own issues in our society with the legalities of pornography and obscenity. It kind of is a recursive thing in that it deals with magistrates and judges within the book itself. So it sort of is a reflection about the same point of people it has problems with. So it answers all of its own questions within itself, if you know what I mean.

OYRC: I think it will do just fine. [awkward aside about Homeland Security guy recently busted for child pornography elided to spare readers]

STAROS: The difference is when something is drawn, it doesn’t involve real people. And laws are designed to protect real people from being involved in these kind of things. So in this particular case, it’s just ink on paper. And in a country that respects the pen, then ideas should be protected at all costs. That’s what the First Amendment’s about. So I – this book is legal. It is safe. And if anyone wants to challenge that, we’re ready to fight that full-board.

OYRC: Rock on. Okay, thanks a lot, Chris.

The Bat Segundo Show #31

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[NOTE: This is the first of a three-part podcast which tackles Alternative Press Expo. Our Young, Roving Correspondent walked the floor and talked with people for the first two parts. The third part will feature the panel interview with Alex Robinson.]

Authors: Doug Paszkiewicz, Daniel Davis, Shane White, Miriam Libicki, Keith Knight, Steve Notley, Jose Cabrera, Debbie Huey, Matt Mocarski, Joshua Boulet, Evan Keeling, Eric Adams, Albert Cajeros and Ira Sherrick, Mark Anastasio, Kevin Cross, Tanya Roberts, and Chris Staros.

Condition of Mr. Segundo: Attempting to justify his bathroom reading.

Subjects Discussed: Politically incorrect comics, monster haikus, hermits in Phoenix, comics set in rural environments, using color to draw readers into unexamined life issues, joining the Israeli Army, the politics of comics, community-based art, The K Chronicles as daily strip, the rage and unexpected controversy of flowers, machismo, the five blade razor, the dangers of being bald in East L.A., losing one’s marbles in a literal manner, Corporate Ninja, elongated curves, confusion over a theme/sales gimmick “Money Equals Love,” flyers as a recurrent comic, the DC Comics Collective, Lackluster World, Hot Mexican Love, habanero peppers, using a comic as a taco shell, zombies, and the scoop on Alan Moore’s Lost Girls.

Now We Know Why the Voice Coming Through the Speakers Sounds So Disembodied

New York Times: “What made the $12.08 transaction remarkable was that the customer was not just outside Ms. Vargas’s workplace here on California’s central coast. She was at a McDonald’s in Honolulu. And within a two-minute span Ms. Vargas had also taken orders from drive-through windows in Gulfport, Miss., and Gillette, Wyo. Ms. Vargas works not in a restaurant but in a busy call center in this town, 150 miles from Los Angeles. She and as many as 35 others take orders remotely from 40 McDonald’s outlets around the country.”

Given that convicts are often employed as telemarketers, the cynical part of me thinks that this isn’t just a ploy by McDonald’s to shave a few seconds, but a way to cut out the labor quotient altogether. Why pay minimum wage to a worker when you can have a convicted felon do the same work for less?